Talk:Bio Spore
Genealogy
Interesting, but seems to me also to be potentially tricky. Seems on the one hand to be a way of expanding family info on personages with bios on WP in a genealogical direction. Yet Wikidata pages on those individuals already link to WikiTree (P2949) family info, where that exists, so to a certain extent this might be duplication? On the other hand, is there an extent to which associative relationships (such as lesser partners of someone famous in a business venture, or non-superstar members of a notable team) or creative contexts (connected with some notable artistic, scientific, engineering, or policy achievement) might be considered? With the slopes of "highest" peaks, and maybe some "lesser" peaks based on other criteria, would that (to mix metaphors) make Gen Spore kind of a level-2 league or supporting cast list? Still could be productive and useful, but those are some questions on first encounter with the concept.--A12n (talk) 18:16, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
- We could consider directions like this, for all sorts of historic persons and their connections - there are a lot of biographies that are interesting and uncovered on Wikipedia, but not COI or a privacy issue. I thought a modest genealogical extension to notable people would be a good way to start. I do think a project tied more directly to Wikimedia has an inherent advantage over WikiTree and can build into the existing ecosystem and community in ways that an outside commercial project cannot.--Pharos (talk) 05:22, 13 November 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. Worth the effort - and yes, agree that there are many interesting biographies. Not sure the value-added for Wikispore to get directly into the genealogy "echospace" as someone once put it - there are so many sites now (of which WikiTree, which is technically not non-profit, but behaves more or less like one, seems closest in form to Wikimedia projects, in part due to its use of Mediawiki software). But maybe there is potential as a kind of biographical (encyclopedic-)dictionary paralleling genealogies. In practice, content on WikiTree generally seems limited to facts and references, with the occasional quoted bio (i.e., not so much articles as supporting info for the data & relationships). So maybe not as much potential duplication from Gen Spore as I was thinking. Anyway, am interested to see how this starts and evolves. (BTW, am assuming you've thought of cases where an individual is within two degrees of separation from more than one person with a WP article.) --A12n (talk) 08:15, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
- test Tgr (talk) 21:16, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Name and scope
I've changed the named and scope from Gen Spore -> Bio Spore following off-wiki discussion with a couple of people, and broader focus for a biographical dictionary on people of historical interest.--Pharos (talk) 23:46, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
Gender dimension & inter-Spore links
A couple of thoughts:
- Since so many of the people written up in Wikipedia articles due to their accomplishments, or positions held, were men who were married and whose wives contributed to their successes, perhaps a focus of Bio Spore could be acknowledgement of those women's lives. That is, as spouses of famous people, and also for what they did in their own right (perhaps in the shadow of their more famous partner).
- Given the somewhat expanded scope of this spore, maybe one suggestion could be that selected individuals prominently associated with organizations profiled in Org Spore, but not themselves meriting full Wikipedia articles, could be subjects of Bio Spore articles. --A12n (talk) 20:04, 2 February 2020 (UTC)